George W. Bush hates YOU!

[Kowaru]

its not the first time he's said some naughty things without thinking, actually there's alot of things he's said without thinking. remember the incident that he was giving a broadcast but something was wrong with the equipment and he got a little upset :D

well here's GW's take on atheists. http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.htm

whats this mean? after the war on terrorism, be prepared for the war on atheism :D. i wonder if anyone ever told him that the "one nation under god" wasn't in the original constitution....naaah he'll find out.





http://images.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/01-30-04-movies/Jacon.jpg

[Dephton]

You do realize that George W. Bush is our president, and George HW. Bush is his father right?

Your article is from when pops was president.

[Diaf]

LOL back to the drawing board Kow,



* Kow walks away "CURSES FOILED AGAIN!" *

[Gigglesworth]

What I find funny is that one person can say "I don't want to have to say one nation under god" and because of that one person they will attempt to remove it all together. If you don't want to say it then don't. But to remove the values which your country is founded on is totally rediculous.

[Kowaru]

i was trying to sneak that past ya'll, but dephton had to screw it up. thanks alot.

[Gaulven]

Gigglesworth: http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/463c5922

[Dephton]

The pledge of allegiance was written in 1892, and its original wording was "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with Lberty and Justice for all."

It was written by a christian socialist basically to sell more flags.

In 1923 the words my flag were changed to "The Flag of the United States of America" to ensure people understood that they were not pledging allegiance to the state flag of idaho, or perhaps sri lanka.

In 1954 the pledge was changed again to include under god, as pushed by the Knights of Columbus.

The original writer of the pledge wanted to include "equality" in the wording, but didn't because he knew that too many people at the time didn't want blacks or women to have equal rights. Here are some thoughts from the original writer while he was coming up with the pledge:


It began as an intensive communing with salient points of our national history, from the Declaration of Independence onwards; with the makings of the Constitution...with the meaning of the Civil War; with the aspiration of the people...

The true reason for allegiance to the Flag is the 'republic for which it stands.' ...And what does that vast thing, the Republic mean? It is the concise political word for the Nation - the One Nation which the Civil War was fought to prove. To make that One Nation idea clear, we must specify that it is indivisible, as Webster and Lincoln used to repeat in their great speeches. And its future?

Just here arose the temptation of the historic slogan of the French Revolution which meant so much to Jefferson and his friends, 'Liberty, equality, fraternity.' No, that would be too fanciful, too many thousands of years off in realization. But we as a nation do stand square on the doctrine of liberty and justice for all..

[Tegdain]

Gaulven, I feel that picture is the worst oxymoron whenever someone posts that it to be smartarse. It's like you're saying I'm the best at being non-competitive.

[Gaulven]

I didn't say you were the best at anything, Tegdain.

[Kelvinn]

speaking of bush (http://www.emogame.com/bushgame.html)...

[Immar]

Haha. Political satire (however out-dated) turned religious debate. I lub da intarweb.

The lovely thing about the pledge of allegiance is that religious folks like the fact that it includes "under god" and get pissed if someone says it shouldn't be there, whatever the reason......when in reality, most religous folks believe in the Ten Commandments, one of which essentially prohibits proclaiming allegiance to anything other than God himself.

On a more important note, my Chocolate lab is finally beginning to lose some weight. She no longer looks like she swallowed a whole pumpkin!!

[Tegdain]

It's like you're saying, "I'm the best at being non-competitive." there smartarse

[Gaulven]

Ok.

[Aalena]

OMG I just had a flashback from when I was 10 and had to explain to my teachers that I was a JW and why I didn't salute the flag. CURSE YOU Dep and Immar. I was trying to repress my memories from my cult days.

Seriously... did you guys get that info from a JW brochure? lol

If we start getting lessons from Guldar about how Christmas was not originally a christian holiday and how the only mentions of bdays in the bible were people's heads getting cut off... I'm leaving!

All heads have safetly stayed in tact at any bdays I have attended!=p

[Gigglesworth]

I made a statement. I don't know how that can be construed as arguing...

[Dephton]

there isn't anything cultish about thinking that under god doesnt belong in the pledge, thats the history of the pledge of allegiance. Immar is an Alabama Baptist, so as far as biblical shit goes, im pretty sure he would be defending the conservative religious side of the whole pledge thing if it really held water.

they fucked up from the start on the pledge and schools thing. they ostracize any kid that chooses not to say it or stand during it. when I was in high school, i personally didn't agree with the wording, and i didn't stand during it, and i was sent out of hte room by a couple of different teachers because of it. if they would have let people have the option from the start, then today people wouldnt be trying to remove the words again altogether.